Christians Love Me… Not

Just a quick post to the many Christians that comment on my videos or have issues with my beliefs. First, you will never catch me going to a Christian YouTube channel or a Christian website and commenting 2% of the hate and vitriol I get on my videos. If you want an example you need go no further than my video “Who do you trust? Science Has a 3 Body Problem” found here and cruise the comments and you will see how Christians act when you say God did not murder people and talk like a crazy tyrant. You MUST believe in the tyrant! Funniest part about the comment section of that video is that the entire video is 50+ minutes and the comment that got me so much hate took up one minute. You must believe in his son! Or else this group of people will lose their minds over it. I however feel that people can worship whomever they wish. Below you will find a recent Facebook post by Nathan Thompson followed by my comment. If you have been linked here by me it is because I can’t always explain my beliefs to every person so this should be enough for you to at the very least understand why I have a different belief than you. Again, you won’t see me ever talking to Christians on their YouTube channel or website or Facebook pages like I am talked to. It isn’t the way you get people to find Jesus, believe me.

My response comment is below and a link to the post is here: https://www.facebook.com/nathan.thompson.3958/posts/10208448942093705

Jeran Campanella (My Response):  I do believe that people are free to believe what they want. My Mom believes in Jesus and his resurrection. I certainly don’t try to upset Christians because I have been around them all my life and they are good people. In my research, and yes, I have read the Bible, I choose not to put my trust in it. I have many reasons but one of them certainly is not “He doesn’t think he’s a sinner yet, so he thinks God is wrong to punish” as Mishelle Cipriani has said above. I know I have made wrong decisions and I know that because I feel it inside… where the Creator speaks to me. He does not speak to me through a book as that is how humans speak to me. I am more than willing to discuss my many other reasons at anytime but all it does is upset Christians. So, I for the most part try and keep it to myself but I get so much hate from those who call themselves Christians that it certainly doesn’t make me want to jump on board. Rob Skiba is a great Christian and has never commented on my video that I better find Jesus quick or I will burn in hell for eternity while hating that I didn’t listen to the people telling me Jesus is the truth or that I am working side by side with the devil and do not know it. (both actual comments) There are far worse people to worry about. I am trying to bring people the truth that Science is a religion. It believes things because a book says to and instead of trusting their eyes and their senses, they trust men. Sad thing is that I feel Christians may be doing the same.

     One other important comment. Here is the hardest part for me to understand… I say that God never killed anyone because I have no proof. Yet I am called a blasphemer while Christians parade around happy as clams and think they will be going to heaven while accusing their Creator of the worst of crimes. Yes, you can explain it away by saying it was judgement and feel okay with it but I do not. There are better ways to punish Pharaoh then to kill ALL first born Egyptian children… especially if you have a goal of wanting those Egyptians to call you God and to love you. If any God killed my first born child because a decision that my Government made, I would not follow that God and would tell my children to tell their children to tell their children the same. There are so many instances where it looks to me that humans have placed human attributes to God when God is the greatest of minds possible. More than every human mind ever combined and multiplied by millions. No one can come close to comprehending his amazing plan and yet Christians think they know his plan. That he has only one intention for us and that is to believe in the son of his (his only begotten son) which alone makes no sense, Adam would also be a begotten son as was David when he says so in Psalms 2:7.

In 1 John 4:18 it is said, “There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.” yet we also are told to “Honour all men. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honour the king.” in 1 Peter 2:17 These are both contradictions and yet Christians make excuses for them by applying their own interpretations to the verses. This proves to me that the Bible is not God’s word because the feeling inside me of my creator needs no interpretation. When I read Judges 11, I do not feel that this God is worthy of worship. The Creator is due all respect and glory and admiration because of what he has given us and when you add so called judgement, an eternity of hell fire for 100 bad years of life, I think you are allowing men to speak for God. When Numbers 11 describes a miserable tyrant, I feel it is my job to recognize that men have written this and given to God human vices and attributes and God is so far beyond petty human thoughts that I feel it is a shame that people can’t take the good from what I consider the best book ever written and recognize where it is not talking about the Creator of all that is. The Creator does not demand animal sacrifice. He does not want to smell the blood of the dead animals people have murdered to show they love God.

1 Corinthians 14:33 says, “For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.” Yet all there is over the Bible is confusion. Some question was Jesus God or man and some question the validity of Noah’s Ark. Even the Gospel itself describes different things when Jesus rises. 2 Samuel Chapter 24 says “And again the anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah. And Joab gave up the sum of the number of the people unto the king: and there were in Israel eight hundred thousand valiant men that drew the sword; and the men of Judah were five hundred thousand men.” and yet in 1 Chronicles Chapter 21 the same story is told (read it and you’ll see) but this time instead of the LORD it was “Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel. And Joab gave the sum of the number of the people unto David. And all they of Israel were a thousand thousand and an hundred thousand men that drew sword: and Judah was four hundred threescore and ten thousand men that drew sword.” This is the very definition of confusion. Later in that same Chapter it is said, “So Gad came to David, and said unto him, Thus saith the LORD, Choose thee either three years’ famine; or three months to be destroyed before thy foes, while that the sword of thine enemies overtaketh thee; or else three days the sword of the LORD, even the pestilence, in the land, and the angel of the LORD destroying throughout all the coasts of Israel. Now therefore advise thyself what word I shall bring again to him that sent me. And David said unto Gad, I am in a great strait: let me fall now into the hand of the LORD; for very great are his mercies: but let me not fall into the hand of man. So the LORD sent pestilence upon Israel: and there fell of Israel seventy thousand men.” 70,000 men when God gave David a choice and David said take me, so I am not killed by these men. Instead God kills 70,000. This is not the words of God or a description of his actions.

I know you think it is. You think God killed those 70,000. I do not. That is the difference. So, sorry that I do not believe what you do but there is a NWO out there that needs to be stopped and I am doing my best to do so. That’s all I can say. I do believe in the two commandments Jesus gave us. Love God. Love each other. I can take the good the book leaves and leave the bad. If you feel comfortable in accusing your Creator of murders you did not witness, so be it.

There are so many more reasons I choose not to be a “Christian” but I have no problem if you choose to be one. However, I simply hope if you confront me about my beliefs or have problems with them then please accept the fact that I have to respond. My simple question to you would be this: Why do you see a book that is a collection of many writers thoughts and dreams, one that has been translated, changed, made into countless versions, passed on by generations via word of mouth, assembled by Catholic Priests and one that discusses the life of a man who died 200 + years before it was written (imagine writing a book about someone who died in 1817) as divine? There is nothing divine about the writings of men. Men write books. Men are fallible. Therefore the bible is fallible. If you have evidence that men did not write the book, please share it. If you have the golden copy of the bible that is untouched, unblemished and shocks anyone who tries to add or subtract from it, please share it. The only one that I can find has pages made from trees and ink from printers and pens so I am positive my versions are the works of men who only wish to do what will benefit them or what was told to them to do by people who have an agenda. I know right from wrong because it was written in my heart at birth. The same is true for a child born in the Amazon with no connection to the modern world, one born in China and one born in India. We all have the same God and so I believe he is smarter than passing his words along in a book. Much smarter.

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Hello! I'm Jeran and I make YouTube videos that challenge current accepted beliefs. I am trying to get people to open their minds and to not just accept the words of those in authority who haven't earned the right to be trusted. This enrages many people because they can't see that all I am doing is simply asking questions and testing things that have been considered facts but don't meet the level of evidence I feel is needed to call something a fact. So as we test, if we find that everything we were taught to believe is true... no harm, no foul right? Plus we get to do a little science as well. But, maybe... just maybe... we will uncover the biggest deception of all time. Open Your Mind... There's Truth Inside!
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  • SaltySub

    Hi Jeran, I understand your stance. There are many issues floating about and as you mention Rob Skiba does set, in my mind a decent example (though of course we are all flawed human beings). For you I think there are three main aspects at play here.

    The first is a personal relationship with the Most High. I believe as God chooses and as you seek Him things will fall into place. I know in my journey in accepting Jesus Yeshua and the Bible (as literally as possible) Christians that set an example and ministered/ rebuked (appropriately)/ taught me were most effective compared to anyone that would have forced me to accept Christ (it wouldn’t work that way anyway).

    Secondly, I understand your issues with the Bible, since I feel non-KJV translations have issues, and KJV itself needs to be carefully read and compared with Hebrew and Greek writings, etc. A majority of the issues people have with the Bible can be peeled away by a more “Messianic” approach, a flat-earth understanding, as well as deep research and understanding of pre-flood situations… So yes, Kent Hovind, but also Rob Skiba, Zen Garcia and Steve Quayle are actively looking at the wrath and reason for the “behaviour” of the “God of the Old Testament”. An eternal hell (“lake of fire”) is indeed apparently a very, very cruel proposition that needs serious consideration as to why (though trusting God is also important, or, the most important). At the end of the day “his ways are higher than our ways” so some things humans may simply not figure out, and that’s the idea of faith.

    Thirdly, I’m sure you get lots of heat for your involvement with “New Age” philosophies. Until one has personal experience with how damaging that can be, indeed, someone telling you “It’s all Satanic” can be hard to digest. Especially if they don’t try and explain why, nor separate out (A) research and exploration of Christianity and why God is and says certain things, vs (B) delving blindly into the hardcore occult. Cymatics for example can be used in an occultic way or in a, I believe, Christian way – the latter being praying aloud, singing praise to the Godhead, making and playing worship music, as well as genuine speaking in tongues. For example, with an understanding of cymatics, detuning your music from 440Hz to 432Hz is a first step in “breaking down strongholds” eg. the Luciferian/Satanic pop music culture.

    Lord willing in your journey you will accept Christ as God wills, as that would be the desire of any Christian (“if even one sheep is found one will rejoice” (cf. Luke 15:3-7)).

    While you are doing good work in exposing the truth of the flat earth and the lies of the Luciferian-Satanic controllers of this world, maybe delving deeper into “problematic” parts of the bible like Rob Skiba, Zen Garcia and Steve Quayle will give you and your audience the insight you seek and further ability to make an informed decision.

    I am far from perfect but accepting Jesus Yeshua has been the biggest turning point and biggest blessing in my life. I think Christians that genuinely come from a point of loving one’s neighbour, by clear honesty, not by hatred, will want to share this in a Godly manner as God inspires them too. Some may do it harshly and some may do it gently. But agreed, it should not have an opposite effect of turning people away from Christ as that would indicate the actions of Satan or evil spirits, etc.

    All the best.

  • LOL I was in that group, it’s full of morons and Nathan this retarded cheerleader “Come on guys we have to keep making flat earth memes, it’s the wave of the future! Memes more memes guys come on!” and that was about it no real discussions, at most some arguing over stupid crap like if there were trees or not and Aliens. There very may well may be aliens but they would definitely not be from outer space, they would have to be from the underworld, another dimension or from another time.
    I made many good posts that I put a lot of thought into and that….(trying to stay cool)….the group leader removed me without any warning and never said which post it was that offended someone. He is a complete pussy, I invite real criticism it helps me to better my arguments for a wider audience, it also pisses me off I’m not able to delete the posts I made to the group after I was removed.
    The whole ordeal is why I made my own flat earth facebook group, I turn down 2/3rds of the people that ask to join. I don’t want it to fill with dipsh*ts asking the same stupid sh*t over and over or anyone that would disagree or argue without a very good reason. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ad5598083de1040f8fe521f1a0d4c4695462474f84a3b1df0f383ff15a375d88.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/52dc63c69df627b7b69a5616813bf8a81b4ec498783fc0cc8e232d3486831c16.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1a4703642902dc56a2335ac86a6bf36a3e5948c6bb9ee642a6c0c3fce5ba381e.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ad5598083de1040f8fe521f1a0d4c4695462474f84a3b1df0f383ff15a375d88.jpg